arguments if you really like the roaring economy right now dealing with all of this malarky, we'll get the sam thing next year, we know that. the knowns are known. the unknowns, unkwns is what types of she nangans to come up with a gmick and the market won't like that. >> gary b, will there have to ha a gimmick? the president won the election and if it pushed over, blame the republicans? >> well, brenda, i think there will be a gimmick and that's unfortunately the way that washington works these days, larry had a phrase, he said meaningful spending difficulties. we know that there's not going to be any meaningful spending cuts, there's not going to be meaningful spending cuts three weeks from now, it's not going to be there three years from now. let's at least get over the psychological hurdle of the fiscal cliff. move on, and put some bandaid together and then hopefully, the next group in there, minus obama, starts to cure this four years from now, because nothing's goingo happen in the next four years good. but maybe we get through the fiscal cliff, but then another fiscal cliff comes, that'